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Fastest way to spiritbond?

What's the fastest location for spiritbonding? Some buddies from the FC and I just started trying it out yesterday. We hit the sahagin beastmen stronghold, the imperial base in Mor Dhona, and FATEs in Northern Thanalan. Of the three, the beastmen stronghold seemed to be the best. I can see the cores FATE in N. Thanalan being perfect for this but someone /always/ turns it in and crashes the party. I prefer a more consistent experience.

Someone also suggested CM, but it's tough getting a full party together for this, it would be more reliable if we had a good option for just 4 of us so we can level our chocobos too.

What has worked best for you?

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level 1
[First] [Last] on [Server]6 points · 4 years ago

What I've been doing is going to the castrum in Wineport and grinding the mobs there, as a scholar dps things die fast!

I've been testing melding materia into the gear to see how much faster it is . 1 hq piece with no materia had 60% at some stage and another hq piece with two slots melded had 76-77% sb after the same time, so meld your sb gear!

I pentamelded a ring with low rank materia just to see, and did a 20 minute run in wineport and 100%'d in around 20 minutes.

level 2
[First] [Last] on [Server]6 points · 4 years ago

HQ and each materia increases the SB rate by 20%.

level 1
Ryan Litt on Cactuar3 points · 4 years ago

There has been some testing and some people say that more materia melded on a piece of gear in fact spiritbonds faster. So don't throw out your level 1 materia. It doesn't matter about the level of the materia but rather the quantity. Some people also don't mind Urths Gift. The Water sprites drop crystals and possibly clusters which can net you some serious gil as well. On top of that it is a level 50 area where you can level your Chocobo, spiritbond your gear and gather some water crystals and clusters. Its a win-win-win situation =)

level 2

This is in fact true. Gear with more materia melded bonds faster, as well. Two-slot gear therefore will always bind faster unless you overmeld your one-slot gear (all other things being equal).

level 2
Ghonsac Secunda of Leviathan; Career WHM1 point · 4 years ago

They don't drop clusters. Countless kills and 1128 water crystals later, I can confirm.

level 3
Ryan Litt on Cactuar1 point · 4 years ago

haha ok my bad XD

level 4
Ghonsac Secunda of Leviathan; Career WHM1 point · 4 years ago

No worries. I wish they dropped clusters too. That would be the icing on the cake for me.

level 1
Stay Inspired on Cactuar4 points · 4 years ago

I like the beastmen stronghold personally. Northern Thanalan is also a solid bet (and imo the most frequented, thus easy to find a party if you don't have one)

Basically anywhere with 48-50 mobs that respawn quickly and you can leash into a central zone for AOE.

CM Takes about 2-3 runs for normal gear, even more for 1 stars and at 20+ Minutes a run it hardly seems feasible.

level 2
Gideon Revel on Ultros1 point · 4 years ago

I pretty much agree with this.

I have no friends to spiritbond with, and rarely join groups, but I can share my solo experiences spiritbonding. If Northern Thanalan mines is not overcrowded with more than 2 fate or spiritbonding groups, it definitely is the best place, having an average spiritbond time of less than 50 minutes, even ignoring the cores fate and having the large downtime between spawns. Otherwise, any beastmen stronghold probably is best, with the Sahagin appearing to be the most dense that I know of, and having an average solo spiritbond time of a little over 70 minutes.

level 3
Original Poster2 points · 4 years ago

Stupid question, where are the mines?

level 4
on Hyperion1 point · 4 years ago

That's where the Dark Devices FATE happens. "Abandoned Amajina Mythril Mine" or something like that (I'd look to be sure but I'm not in game currently).

level 2
on Hyperion1 point · 4 years ago

The Garlean areas (Cape Westwind, the one near Wineport, and the one in Mor Dhona) are decent for spiritbonding but your bag fills up with worthless drops.

level 1
[First] [Last] on [Server]2 points · 4 years ago

Can't you SB rather painlessly by 1) gathering a bunch of mats for single-ingredient synths (logs or whatever). Then 2) quick-synthing them. You can SB ilvl 55 crafting gear that way, I don't see why you couldn't throw on some pieces of non-crafter gear and get other materia. It only takes about 3 sets of 99 quick-synths to SB HQ gear with 1 materia (maybe 2, haven't tested thoroughly with failures)

level 2

Yes you can but think of all the shards you'd be wasting! I assume this only works when doing level 41+ recipes.

level 3
[First] [Last] on [Server]2 points · 4 years ago

I don't see shards as an obstacle, they are very easy to obtain. But I realized doing this method, you could only get tier IV materia from crafting gear because the highest ilvl gear that is "all classes" is level 50 (can get tier IV from ilvl 55). Still, I think it's a pretty efficient way to get tier III materia.

level 4

I think there are some ilvl 55 accessories that might be all classes but I'm not sure. Would have to check when I get home (specifically thinking of the militia earrings and militia choker).

level 5
[First] [Last] on [Server]2 points · 4 years ago

You are correct. There are even ilvl 70 all classes crafted accessories. But then you'd have to spam * or ** recipes to SB them... (can you SB level 70 gear with just * recipes? I've never thought to check).

level 6
Ghonsac Secunda of Leviathan; Career WHM2 points · 4 years ago

You can wear the militia wristlets/choker/etc gear into dungeons, they spiritbind really quickly, especially if they're melded. More than a few people on a thread a while back said it's the easiest way for a chance at IV materia without sacrificing too much time or shards

level 1
Power- now all to droplets turned2 points · 4 years ago

I've been solo aoeing (sch) at the area leading up to Urth's Girth, it's pretty fast, about 15-16m per set. I uploaded a vid yesterday to show some of my friends, but it was super laggy and turned out quite a bit slower. It's usually about 45-50s to clear a 10-12 pull, ~20s on the pull itself, which yields me ~6-7% with the guild buff on 0star nq 1-mat accs. I can't craft 1-stars yet, so idk how that would affect it.

If this spot's taken, I can just move further back to the boars/bats, there's 3-4 spawns of them you can run in circles around. I found I was wasting too much time trying to group mobs inside the fountain itself, as they're all ranged. The stun on the boars is a bit annoying to avoid with 2s cast times, but the rate wasn't bad, 4m for 22%.

I like grinding in between dungeon queues, and vastly prefer it to running CM now, but can't lvl chocobo if doing so. For chocobo xp, it took me ~1h15m for L3-4, and 1h35m for L4-5. If it keeps going up like this, I think maybe 10-14 hours to cap it at 10? It really doesn't seem as slow as people were saying in previous threads though, unless it jacks up exponentially in the last few levels.

level 1
2 points · 4 years ago

One that hasn't been mentioned yet: North Shroud, northern area past Proud Creek.

level 1

The water spirits at urths gift @ quarrymill are worth trying. Level 50 mobs, drops water crystals, quick respawn rate, easy to kill, and with a healer and blm you can line of sight them with the crystal in the middle. Then after they group you can AOE them down, then run to the bees AOE... Rinse repeat.

level 2

The boars/bats in urths gift are nice as well. I usually craft full militia/imperial for bard and go soloqueue WP. By the time it pops I'm usually halfways done or so, then finish it off before another WP. If DF is slow and takes about 45ish min, I sb fully before getting a WP-pop. The reason I prefer this camp is because the drops sell very nicely, and drop a plenty.

level 3
WHM2 points · 4 years ago

Good suggestion, boar hides are worth a decent amount of gil too. Anything you can dual purpose, farm to keep/sell mats and SB is a win.

level 2

I'm a big fan of this spot as well. However it's starting to get more and more crowded on my server.

level 2
[First] [Last] on [Server]0 points · 4 years ago

Dont say it !

level 3
on Hyperion1 point · 4 years ago

Too late. I wandered over there to finish off my BLM hunting log about a week ago and the place was already overrun (about 3 groups worth of people there, with chocobos) during late primetime (around midnight EST) on Hyperion.

level 1

Noob question: What does spiritbonding do?

level 2
Helios Lumini on Behemoth1 point · 4 years ago

Having an item spiritbound allows you to convert it and turn it into materia.

For high level items, this is very profitable, since many of the high level (III+) materia are in demand. Savage Aim III materia sell on my server for around 30k each.

level 1
Moglin Mooglelover on Ultros0 points · 4 years ago

I Spiritbond 1 star pieces in WP runs as a WHM. It takes about 20 minutes on average per run, three to four runs a piece, and I get 11 chances at Tier IV Materia. Typically, I do this for my Mythology runs for the week, so I end up doing a few more, usually around 12 runs, and get 33 chances. I wouldn't recommend this as a tank, because I'm not sure how good the one star gear is for a tank, but any DPS or healer class should be fine with the stats on the one stars.

level 2
Original Poster2 points · 4 years ago

I only have GSM so I'm only doing the accessories. Do you buy the armor or craft it? I play WAR/PLD so WP isn't viable for me in full SB gear without slowing down the run considerably.

level 3
Au Ra not Lalaaa3 points · 4 years ago

I'm a PLD with GSM, and i just do the amber accessories, and it doesn't slow down WP at all. I make all my money this way, i highly recommend it.

level 4
2 points · 4 years ago

I do this as well. I sb turquoise gear on my sch and I can still heal speed run pulls fine. On my smn I could probably get away with a full set of militia and sb accessories if I really wanted to.

level 3

As a PLD I learned that ARM craft helps. You can craft ilvl 40-55 gear for SB and you're comparable to AF stat gear, throw on some accessories from your GSM and you're good to go. Just remember to have your original PLD gear set/SB set on hot bar so you can kill the bosses in full gear without fear of death. Join duty finder runs as they tend to not be speed run 24/7.

level 3
Moglin Mooglelover on Ultros2 points · 4 years ago

Oh, I'm Builder of the Realm, so I make everything myself. At any rate, you could SB some accessories relatively painlessly, but if you want to do full sets you're better off doing Beastman Strongholds with i45 gear. i45 will SB the fastest, and as HQ with one piece of Materia socketed to it, it'll go 40% faster, but keep in mind i45 will only ever Convert to Tier III.

level 2

It's longer, but there are more adds in AK than WP, you'll get faster results for spiritbond.

level 3
[First] [Last] on [Server]1 point · 4 years ago

The bugs in WP make it faster if you pull them all. I have tested running WP quickly and AK as quick as the group could go. WP was by far a greater %age/time spent ratio than AK.

level 4

You're right. I keep forgetting to pull the bugs

level 2
-5 points · 4 years ago(More than 9 children)
level 3
[First] [Last] on [Server]1 point · 4 years ago · edited 4 years ago

I am also a WHM who makes and spiritbonds HQ Tourmaline (+ MND and PIE) and Turquoise (+ MND and spell speed) accessories while I cap my myth tomes. Both of those are appropriate to my class and don't slow down my parties. I meld a level 1 materia into each accessory and then overmeld a single level 1 materia onto each ring, bracelet, earring, and choker. It takes me 2 1/2 - 3 1/2 runs to bond each piece.

I don't know where you're getting the idea that spiritbonding automatically means you're gimping your party. And I also don't know why you'd think a piece needs to be pentamelded to bond more quickly.

If I want to spiritbond crafting gear, I do it by farming sheep or elementals - solo. People who wear more than a single crafting accessory in regular dungeons really need to be called out on their shit.

edit: It looks like MoogleBoy is talking about the Militia gear, which is a perfectly valid set for healers doing WP runs, especially if they have a relic weapon to balance out the slightly-lower-than-darklight stats.

level 4
-3 points · 4 years ago

Hes doing a complete full set, not one or two pieces so I am calling him out on his shit, Regardless is full militia or not, its not up to par for speed runs, period. As a blm im expected to full DL inc accessories , so I expect the same, if I see a whm pulling this crap ill drop, even it means waiting, I wont stand for that crap.

"And I also don't know why you'd think a piece needs to be pentamelded to bond more quickly." You do know how bonding works right?

level 5
[First] [Last] on [Server]1 point · 4 years ago · edited 4 years ago

Yes, I do - but you don't have to have something melded with 5x the materia for it to bond in 2-3 runs. Twice is sufficient. A single overmeld on an HQ accessory will make it bond before the fourth WP run every time.

You really ought to look up the stats on militia gear before you knock it. And where did he say he was speed running? If I go into a dungeon through DF, I don't expect a speed run. No one should - it's duty finder. You're sometimes going to get tanks who haven't even done their Chimera fight.

If I'm doing a SR with FC mates, I throw on whatever pieces of DL accessories I feel I need. DF runs get regular (ie: class-appropriate spiritbinding) gear...because they are duty finder runs, not speed runs.

level 6
-2 points · 4 years ago

Im a blm, I bond militia all the time, I know the stats and questioned the overmeld because you were in agreeance with the other guy, you cant bond in WP on 2 melds in a few runs, i'm calling bullshit because you and the other guy are saying its a few runs, which its not, even 5 meld its not even close.

This is assuming your not killing the whole zone, but it looks like you are and the other guy, so that's prolly were the confusion is coming from, I assumed that people play efficiently and not selfishly even in the DF, its prolly why I stay away from the duty finder and run with a static, so I don't run with people that suck and waste my time.

level 7
Moglin Mooglelover on Ultros2 points · 4 years ago

HQ (+20%) and a single Materia (+20%) and two Aetheryte Rings (+2 SB Rate) gives me 19-22% per run. The reason I do this on WHM is so I can run off to grab the side chests, and Holy the Bronze Beetles to death. Swiftcast + Holy followed by another hardcast Holy will kill the entire pack in Cleric Stance.

Edit: Also, DF is not the place for "Speed Runs", and more often than not, trying to stupidly glitch the mobs by skipping wastes more time in the event of someone needing to run back, or waiting on favorable pathing. I'm glad scumbags like you stick to statics, because I typically go out of my way to slow down people who think they can force three other people into a speed run.

level 8
-4 points · 4 years ago

So it went from a few runs, which I called bullshit on to 5? that's not a few runs, maybe if you and others didn't exaggerate stuff to prove points, people like me wouldn't need to call you out on bullshit.

Just because its a duty finder doesn't mean you should play selfishly and then you call me a scumbag when you purposely sabotage runs because it doesn't fit your mighty sense of ideals? ya..... I think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror, hypocrite.

level 9
Moglin Mooglelover on Ultros2 points · 4 years ago

Gods be good, you're an idiot. 19-22% is an estimate, because I'm not entirely sure how much per run I get, but I know it's at the very least in that range. It's better to underestimate than overestimate. I'm not "exaggerating" shit.

Also, yes, just because it's Duty Finder doesn't mean you should play selfishly, and I go with whatever the group is doing. Guess what, it's a very rare occurrence that a full random group using DF is going to be doing Speed Runs. Jumping into a DF and telling the three other people "This is now a Speed Run" is a quick way to either get an empty party, or me laughing my ass off as a DL/AK geared tank tries to pull three or more groups and eats dirt over and over and over again. The funny part is, you think it's perfectly acceptable for someone to tell three other people "we're moving at my pace" so long as the pace is fast as possible, but not okay for someone to say "we can still clear the zone in 20 minutes if we don't pull three groups with a group of WAR, WHM, DRG, MNK". Nice try, asshole.

level 10
-2 points · 4 years ago

Where the fuck did I say I expect others to run at my pace? maybe you should learn to read first before spouting off like a moron. I said you were a hypocrite for forcing your self righteous bullshit on people because mighty moogleboy doesn't want to speed run. I never DF ak/wp, I run a static to stay away from casual scrubs like you.

level 1

I usually just spam Holy on a bunch of sheep in Coerthas. I haven't timed it but it seems fairly quick, plus I get to sell the fleece and make lanolin (which sells for a good price on my server) with the skins.

level 2

Those things are too low level to give SB for level 50+ gear.

level 3

For i55 gear, yeah. But if you're just doing 45-49 gear and can afford HQ with some cheap melds then it's fine.

level 2
WHM1 point · 4 years ago

its no where near quick for SB, but you can't argue its good for gil with a billion others trying to farm them as well.

level 3

Ever since patch 2.05 (I think that's the right number) karakuls are everywhere in Coerthas and I've never had a problem finding a group of 7-8 sheep that nobody else is actively trying to murder.

Of course, I'm only speaking for my own server. Things might be different elsewhere.

level 4
WHM1 point · 4 years ago

On Balmung the new camps were only easy to get ahold of for the first few days after the patch. Now theres just more active farming going on. Rarely do I ever get a camp to myself for more than a few minutes before someone comes along and decides I need to 'share'. Just angers me more than most because most the time I need it for my weaver >.< They sell well on our server and people farm them like crazy, somehow the price stabilized relatively high despite the large number of farmers and sellers.

level 1
[First] [Last] on [Server]-2 points · 4 years ago

You could use turn 4 as a place to SB. In about 20mins of wiping at the first dreadnaught i had all my accessories SB.

level 2
-9 points · 4 years ago(More than 25 children)
level 3
WHM3 points · 4 years ago

When did it turn into a conversation about playing coil well? Its about SB rate and he gave a legitimate answer.

level 3
[Tekka] [Takeda] on [Cactuar]2 points · 4 years ago

I'm pretty sure the jewels are not the reason the entire party is wiping.

You can use T4 to farm pretty easily from most accounts.

Also, there are people who think (and are correct) that Coil is a joke especially after everyone has become so geared.

If you could SB 3 sets of gear in an hour, you're able to make large amounts of money.

Sounds legitimate to me.

level 4
-9 points · 4 years ago(0 children)
level 5
WHM4 points · 4 years ago

you again? I just told you one comment ago this is about spiritbonding not effectively beating coil, damn.

level 6
-6 points · 4 years ago(0 children)
level 7
WHM3 points · 4 years ago

It isn't supernatural, its you. Just read your comments out loud to yourself with an outside perspective. That is, if you are not in fact a sociopath and possess some level of empathy.

level 8
-7 points · 4 years ago(0 children)
level 9
WHM1 point · 4 years ago
level 10
-6 points · 4 years ago(0 children)
level 5
[Tekka] [Takeda] on [Cactuar]1 point · 4 years ago

Sigh.

Whether he's wiping repeatedly on purpose or not doesn't change the fact that the SB rate is higher for T4.

Just because a group can kill something doesn't mean they can't farm something by purposely dying. Think of DD - People could finish it in 2 minutes, but they chose to farm it for 15 minutes by a method that the developers didn't intend (supposedly).

This is the same occurrence - Dying to farm a high spawn, high XP, high SB rate encounter since this is the only way you can reset it. What's the question here?

As I said, if his entire group is dying, more than likely it isn't because his jewels aren't +3 to each stat compared to what he's SB'ing. If that's making the world of difference, then I don't know what to tell you but I've never been in a situation where a healer healing for 50 more on a 700-1000 HP heal made the difference between an entire group completing an encounter or wiping constantly. Ever.

OH DUDE I JUST GOT +8 MND ADDED TO MY STATS! I CAN CARRY US THROUGH X OR Y ENCOUNTER NOW!

Nope.

level 6
-8 points · 4 years ago(0 children)
level 7

You do realize the guy doing this said nothing about trying to beat it right? He said it was fast, that's all.

level 8
[First] [Last] on [Server]3 points · 4 years ago

That's why we do it. Basically we get up to turn 4 on Monday the hold off to Thursday. On Thursday we beat turn 4 then work on turn 5. In-between we use turn 4 to pump out SB gear. Honestly the plan is solid.

level 8
-5 points · 4 years ago(0 children)
level 9
[First] [Last] on [Server]3 points · 4 years ago

Eh. Haters be hating. But I have to ask, why do you care so much?

level 10
-3 points · 4 years ago

who says I care? you made a comment, I made a comment, other people make comments, its a forum to post on.

level 7
WHM2 points · 4 years ago

fkn casuls srs or gtfo n00bs

level 7
[First] [Last] on [Server]1 point · 4 years ago

you're a real peach

level 8
-7 points · 4 years ago(0 children)
level 9

Says the guy who completely insisted that the WP boss lockouts were an exploit and would get fixed, even though the devs said otherwise.

level 10
-7 points · 4 years ago(0 children)
level 7
[Tekka] [Takeda] on [Cactuar]1 point · 4 years ago

Ha, I'm not sure if we're completely misunderstanding each other or what.

What I'm saying is - You shouldn't judge someone's method of spiritbonding. Where they bond should be no concern to you. It looks like you have a very high pedestal view of Coil, which is fine, but if someone wants to screw around in your precious Coil, don't get upset.

How someone generates their money, outside of "cheating" or "RMT", should not be something you criticize because you don't think it's "right" to do.

I've been raiding end game in countless MMOs and I 100% guarantee you that once things become farm mode, we normally screw around to either make things more interesting, difficult, or whatever it may be.

I don't think you should be the judging voice of any of the above.

Get off your high horse.

Casual response. Hilarious.

You're too hardcore for the universe.

level 8
-2 points · 4 years ago

Im pretty sure we misunderstood each other, if you can clear/farm runs go for it, my only point is if your wiping then maybe you shouldn't. But its blown up to this huge deal, meh people and their panties twisted always make for a fun afternoon so I don't mind.

level 9
[Tekka] [Takeda] on [Cactuar]1 point · 4 years ago

True - He did not mention intentional wiping or not (pretty sure it is not intentional for this specific situation). I hear you.

It's been fun. The sub was getting a little boring.

level 1

What location is beast men stronghold?

level 1
0 points · 4 years ago

one easy way is just to kill all mobs in turn 3 and turn 1 before boss. however we don't have a whole lot of time to play together each week so we skip some mobs and rush through 1-4 to practice on 5.

according to the ppl who do sb hq melded accs gain about 20% (?) in a single coil run this way.

level 1
WHM-1 points · 4 years ago

Meteor Survivor Ring

HQ Gear

2 Materia in each piece (trash materia)

It speeds it up significantly, unfortunately I can only speak to having actually charted Spiritbonding efficiency on crafting classes.

Anything SB+ gear other than Meteor Survivor Ring is moot and you're better off getting something in that slot to later convert. The MSR however, gives you +3, its pretty significant for one measly slot.

level 2
[Tekka] [Takeda] on [Cactuar]1 point · 4 years ago

I believe it's proven that wearing another ring to SB rather than MSR gives better returns.

+1 = ~1% increase.

3% increase will not outweigh the benefit of a level 45+ crafting/gathering ring that you can SB at a very slightly slower rate.

However, if you do not have any alternative rings to SB, MSR is still great.

level 3
WHM-3 points · 4 years ago · edited 4 years ago

you believe

It's a diminishing returns gain, I've proven myself through crafting unless there are different algorithms involved for DoW/DoM spiritbonding.

1 point = 10% reduction in required xp

2 points = 19%

3 points = 27%

so the trend it 10,9,8,7 so on

based on downvotes and no other prevailing evidence, I secede that my math is . . . wrong?

level 4
[Tekka] [Takeda] on [Cactuar]1 point · 4 years ago

Interesting. My tests proved otherwise (time based) back when I ran the largest SBing LS on Cactuar. We had about 40-50 people constantly SB farming. Some with and some without the ring on and the difference in rates were very small.

Maybe something changed from a few months ago.

Thanks for your testing though. I'm not trying to discredit you, just that my results were different. I also wonder if the point scales with the XP or level of mobs. Highly unlikely, but sometimes things that don't make sense in this game, happen hahaha.

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